Project Hail Mary and Invincible! Plus too many INCREDIBLE trailers Ep 63

Welcome to the Unknown Theories Podcast! Taylor and Kris are back at it again covering all things nerdy from Star Wars to Marvel and everything in-between. 
In today's episode we discussing a whole bunch of different shows and movies. We have trailer topics including Spider-man Brand New Day, Dune Part 3, and Supergirl. Invincible is back with a new season, so we made sure to talk about how we're liking it. Lastly, we give our review on Project Hail Mary. Be sure to let us know what you think of all those different projects down in the comments. Until next time, we'll see you in the Unknown. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:24

Welcome back to the Unknown Theories podcast. I'm your host, Oddball. Joined with me, as always, is my co-host. Yo Slow. It's him right there. If you can see. It has been a while since we've done this. I mean, yeah, it's only been like, what, forever, if I'm not mistaken. A couple of months. Uh my goodness, yeah, it actually has been a while. Uh much has happened. Much. Yes. We have a lot to discuss between trailers, TV, and movies. Yes, that is true. And and all the friends we've met along the way as well. And some stuff that's ending, which is gonna be tragic. Maybe we should start there. Let's rip the band-aid off. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:18

Um are you talking about what I just showed you?

SPEAKER_01 1:22

Yeah, I think we should talk about. I mean, not everyone's obviously watched this the show.

SPEAKER_03 1:26

No, I think it's a very niche show. I think a lot of people actually watch this show. I think it's pretty popular. Yeah. Okay. I think I think what's really nice about it, okay. The show is smiling friends, and it is ending uh in two episodes. Uh, we have two episodes left before the show is completely over. And the creators, who are two um YouTube guys, um, they are ending on a high note. Their show is more popular than ever, and it is being shut down. Um truly tragic. Yeah. And uh, but anyways, um, yeah, they have two episodes left. Uh, what's really nice is they they post a lot of their shows um on YouTube. They'll do like reruns on YouTube all the time on the Adult Swim channel. And each episode is only like 10 minutes long, so it's not hard to get into. And I really like the animation personally.

SPEAKER_01 2:23

I think it's I think it's funny. Um what what I don't even know how to describe it as a like obviously it's a comedy, um, but it's so wacky and and weird, and it it makes me laugh so hard. And uh in the vein in the vein of the no no, I was gonna say like um just like the comedic style of like how they write these like interactions, and like I don't even know how to describe that type of comedy, but it really uh it it's got a direct line to my funny bone, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_03 3:00

Yeah, I was gonna say um in the vein of any of the adult cartoons like Family Guy and Simpsons and South Park, it kind of like takes from those, but it uh it really is unique. Um the animation style, they do like multiple different animation styles, so it's like so like unique in that way. And of course the comedy is so incredible. And like I said, they're on the top of the world, they've only done three seasons, they were greenlit for two more seasons, and they said, you know what, instead of that, let's just end it while we still are enjoying it. That way we don't get to a point where we're burnt out on it, and I think that's a great mindset.

SPEAKER_01 3:42

And you know, I have a big gripe with a lot of people that are trying to make it out to seem like you know, they're they're kind of uh lazy or like maybe this wasn't hard work. A lot of people are bringing up the fact that you know these are really short episodes, you know, they're not long, the seasons are like only like I don't know, X amount of hours or whatever, you know, not even like uh like barely a full-length movie is like what a lot of people say, but like you're not taking into account the animation, you're not taking into account the writing process of like creating these shows, the uh the studio time and everything else that goes into making a television show. It's not just throwing something together. Um and so I just like I kind of like throw some backlash. I just feel like a lot of people are like, you know, they're obviously like care about the show the show and they don't want it to end. Um and they're upset that they I feel like a lot of people are upset because it's not the studio ending it, it's you know the creators, and so it feels like it feels like they could have more of something, but because the creators are taking it away, that's why people are like lashing out a lot on uh social media and stuff.

SPEAKER_03 5:01

I haven't I I did see a lot of people upset at the start, but I feel like a lot of them are feeling better now than they did back then. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:10

At least it's it's definitely quieted down a lot. Uh, and that's probably because of some awesome trailers. There's been a lot out there. Yeah, and the first incredible trailer, I think we should just dive right into it. Um, if if you're good with that, the first trailer.

SPEAKER_03 5:29

Yeah, I think I think we talked long enough for Smiling Friends. Great show. It's great, check it out.

SPEAKER_01 5:36

Check it out. Dune part three. Dune part three. Two weeks ago it released the official teaser trailer, I believe. Not the official official trailer, but the official teaser is sitting at a crispy 35 million views on YouTube that obviously doesn't con include all the other platforms. Um but that is a solid view. This is gonna be the conclusion to Paul Atreides story. Um you know, his many names, I'm not gonna say them here, but uh this is exciting. This is an exciting conclusion because uh it's also Denis Villanueva. Is that his name? The director, Villanouve? Mm-hmm. I said it right. Um, anyways, uh I can't I can't with you just sitting there dryly. Do you need me to talk? Do you need do you need me to talk about it? No, no, no, no, no, no. Uh I mean, yeah, dive in whenever you feel like. No, okay, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 6:47

I thought I I thought I told you it's Villanouve, yeah. Yeah. But you had started by saying Villanueva. And I was like, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 6:54

Yeah, yeah, I know. Well, listen, I've heard it from you know other like people online, and you know, everyone says it differently. Everyone says it differently. It's like George Lucas calling, you know, uh Dooku and like he calls them weird names sometimes, or Geonosis and Geonosis, and like anyways, anyways, this is the conclusion of that story, and so I'm I'm interested. Like, do you feel like it's a good place to end? Do you feel like they're cutting a lot of stuff or like making like taking liberties with the story? And like because I've heard uh some people say that there's a lot more to tell after this. Do you think there's gonna be a lot more after this uh this movie?

SPEAKER_03 7:39

Uh so the book series, the original author, Frank Herbert, he wrote six books. And these three movies are covering the first two. As you can see, I got my Dune poster back there. Um so I'm really into Dune. Uh so this is this third movie is gonna take place during the second book and the third book. They're gonna kind of mix the two books together. They're gonna mix Dune Messiah and Dune uh or children of Dune. They're gonna kind of mix those two together. So we're gonna get some time jumps, we're gonna get some other things happening. It's gonna be a wild movie. Uh, I'm super excited for it. Um, and yeah, I think that there is a lot more to tell, but similar to Smiling Friends, I would prefer Denis to stop when he's feeling good about it and not to keep pushing it out for the sake of whatever money or whatever. Sure, sure.

SPEAKER_01 8:42

And I mean, a a lot of the crazy cool stuff um, you know, with the God Emperor happens later. Uh sure, sure.

SPEAKER_03 8:52

There's a lot of but but uh, you know, um he also said that he's perfectly fine if someone takes the helm from him. Yeah. Um, so it it just matters the studio is for sure gonna pursue more Dune stuff. It has made them a lot of money. Uh so they're gonna keep going. And uh Denis is gonna move on to uh James Bond 007.

SPEAKER_01 9:13

Oh, that's right.

SPEAKER_03 9:15

And so honestly, I'm really excited about that because I loved like Sicario. I I really like uh prisoners, uh all of those um kind of like you know, special agents slash detective things. You can have something really good. I mean, I think he can do dark really well. Um, I think that he is gonna make a very interesting bond, especially after the transition from the you know, I don't know. I guess we're getting into Bond now, so I should stop before we get into Bond with something else.

SPEAKER_01 9:47

I was laughing because I just can't help the train of thought of a James that train derailed and uh cliff.

SPEAKER_03 9:54

Uh maybe we'll have to talk about James Bond later. Yeah. But Denise Villeneuve, uh great. Uh it's gonna be sad that Greg Frazier wasn't a part of it uh for the doing the director, um the being the DP, but um he's doing Batman part two, and he did something else that we're gonna be talking about later in the podcast.

SPEAKER_01 10:17

Um honestly, we probably should have talked about what we're gonna discuss. Um, we're gonna start with some trailer discussion, uh, mainly covering Dune, Spider-Man brand new day, and the supergirl. Uh, and then we're gonna transition into some television discussion with Invincible, and it's season four. Uh, I'm gonna have a little bit of ranting and light praise on Daredevil Born Again. Um nothing spoilery. Uh, and then we're gonna jump into Project Hail Mary, which uh is what Taylor was alluding to with Greg Frasier, the cinematographer.

SPEAKER_03 10:58

I also think it's been a while. I don't know if I ever got to talk at all about Pleurabus, but maybe I can just do a quick shout-out to Pleurabus during our TV show discussion.

SPEAKER_01 11:08

Sure, sure, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:10

Okay, anyways, uh, so yeah, we're talking about Dune part three. I don't think that they are gonna miss. I have full faith in Denis Velnou. He's changed things already for the better, and uh, we just gotta see how this ends up turning out. Uh, what do you think?

SPEAKER_01 11:27

Uh I think it's an easy billion dollars for him, truthfully. Uh for one, it's the conclusion to the trilogy. Uh for another, um I I I think it's just been a massive hit for them. So beyond uh, you know, being the conclusion of the story, Dune has really like resonated with this uh like with everybody currently, you know. It came out at a great time, you know. A lot of like superhero movies and stuff is kind of stagnated. Um, a lot of people were looking for something new and fresh. Dune part one was was good and it kind of like put laid the groundwork for Dune part two, which absolut absolutely like stole everybody's uh hearts and minds uh in in terms of uh escaping to uh to Dune to uh to to Arrakis. And uh yeah, now everybody's riding them worms and uh everyone's hyped about it, and I think that's pretty awesome. Uh I'm I'm someone that's like been very interested in Dune. I haven't ever read the book. I bought it and I have it like right next to me actually. It's on in my stack of reading lists, like to read books. Yeah, um, I just haven't got to it. Um but I like the universe, and it's kind of it's a grandfather sci-fi universe, like it paved the way for a lot of great sci-fi that is um Pierce.

SPEAKER_03 13:00

That and foundation, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:02

Yeah, which I am actually currently reading. But uh Pierce Brown, uh the the author for the Red Rising series, talked about uh I was listening to an interview with him, and he talked about how uh how important uh Dune was to him growing up and like reading that and uh how it kind of you know it it helped him in his creation. Uh, you know, obviously his universe is totally different, but there are um you know sci-fi and fantasy and all that stuff. We all have different planets.

SPEAKER_03 13:36

Well the houses of different planets.

SPEAKER_01 13:39

Yeah, we all have houses or houses, we all have uh stories that inspire us.

SPEAKER_03 13:43

Uh yeah, so I even uh George R. Martin, Game of Thrones author, his one of his inspirations was Dune, Frank Herbert's Dune. Exactly. Um, and and also um the fact that he wanted to be different than uh Tolkien, and so yeah, yeah, that's true. Uh but um yeah, yeah. Oh uh Dune Dune Prophecy is pretty good too. I haven't finished it, but I do like anything in the universe. That's the TV show, obviously, Dune Prophecy.

SPEAKER_01 14:19

Oh, that's right, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:20

Um so I mean it it uh it's pretty good so far. I watched a couple episodes and then I it was when I was on a kick of stuff after Alien Earth and stuff, which I think is one of our last episodes we talked about.

SPEAKER_01 14:33

Yeah, that is uh we did discuss that last episode. But anyways, should we move on or do you want to do that? Yeah, I think we should move into the next one. I'm I'm excited for Dune part three. It does come out uh alongside uh Doomsday, Avengers Doomsday. Dune's Day! Yeah, which Dunes Day could be a total thing, uh you know, similar to the Barbenheimer, but we'll we'll see. We'll see. It's not I mean, who knows? Maybe one of them will end up changing dates, maybe it'll become a thing. I don't know. If anything, it'll just help both of them.

SPEAKER_03 15:04

Um I could have sworn something else is coming out that same week as well. Um that was just released, and I was like, and then someone was like, Oh, it can be this, this, then Dune's Day, and I was like, oh man.

SPEAKER_01 15:19

Um, but one thing that isn't coming out around Dune is Spider-Man brand new day. Now that came out uh I think a day or two after like it came out a few days after Dune part three, if not like a day after, right? Like it was pretty recent, it was two weeks ago. Yep. Um, it's sitting at a crispy 29 million views. Now uh they're they're throwing out numbers saying it's the most viewed trailer across all platforms, stuff like that. Um I think considering Spider-Man's fame, uh I I believe it. It's a groundbreaking trailer. I remember when it came out, like just the amount of uh you know, I started seeing people doing breakdowns, I saw people doing edits, like people are are buzzing about this movie, and this isn't like they're obviously buzzing about Dune 3 as well, but Spider-Man, like there's just like a different um way you can get hyped about it. Uh, but I think Spider-Man's absolutely amazing. I'm excited for this because we we get to see Peter uh dealing with the consequences of that spell that erased his memories, and stuff is happening. There might be some X-Men showing up, there might be all sorts of things happening in this movie. We already know. Maybe a vampire or something.

SPEAKER_03 16:38

The vampire? What are you talking about? You don't know the story about the vampire that hunts the spiders across the oh uh Mordo or something like that. Or what's his name? Mordo. I don't know. There's a vampire hunter, though, that comes through and he They ain't doing that, bro. Let me tell you right now, they ain't doing that, bro. Well, it's during a similar story where he gets extra powers.

SPEAKER_01 17:02

Yeah, no, I know what you mean.

SPEAKER_03 17:04

Um I I will say before before we get too into it, I will say I have seen just as many Dune edits as uh as Spider-Man ones. I feel like they're pretty equal on level. Um, I've seen so many people talk um doing the uh thing talking about wanting to go to war with Paul. I know you're biased towards Spider-Man, it's okay.

SPEAKER_01 17:26

It's not biased, it's just the numbers. It's just the numbers. Most watched trailer of all time across all platforms. Yeah, but I mean if HBO had the numbers for Dune, they would they would say the same thing. I'm not it's not a dig. It's not a dig on either one. I'm just saying Spider-Man, Spider-Man has pull from not just adults and people that are superhero fans, but also he's got kids that love Spider-Man. Spider-Man's got a greater range of audience, he's got a greater range of fame. Dune is uh is different. Dune will be there when the kids grow up. Uh they can experience Paul's uh jihad across uh the stars. That's fair. Yeah. But uh anyway, what I was gonna say. What do you think of uh seeing Bruce Banner and the Punisher in the trailer? Pretty exciting.

SPEAKER_03 18:19

Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, wherever Hulk fits in or Bruce Banner, it's okay. I don't know. I do you know the rumors behind him being in this? Uh no. I may have heard something, but I don't remember. Okay, all right. Frank Castle, like that makes sense because he's related to um because he's related to Spider-Man a lot being in New York and stuff. Uh there's also a theory that Daredevil is in it, but they've CGI'd him out of a couple of scenes.

SPEAKER_01 18:52

Yeah, that that final shot with him jumping against the hands.

SPEAKER_03 18:57

And also, if if if they keep the history of the Netflix show, then he would be invaluable in Peter's thing, unless it's what people were saying, and he's maybe having some sort of dream sequences. Uh, because there is those theories out there that Spider-Man is having some sort of dream sequences, and that's why it looks different, like slow-mo and stuff.

SPEAKER_01 19:19

Yeah. I mean, that feels more like grasping. I think that the digitally cutting out of people, like that final shot reminds me a lot of uh uh No Way Home. That's what everybody's been saying. Showed the lizard getting kicked by invisible.

SPEAKER_03 19:36

I mean, it didn't show anyone getting kicked this time, thank goodness. But yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 19:42

Yeah, why are hand ninjas jumping down here when Spider-Man's up here, you know? Yeah, yeah. Um, so I would love if Daredevil showed up because I mean they established him having the batons with the cables, so he swings around New York himself. Like Spider-Man, yeah. Like Spider-Man, so that'd be really cool. We'll talk about uh Daredevil Born Again later on, but uh I think it's pretty exciting. I think we're gonna get some interesting Hulk stuff. I don't want to spoil anything. Uh we can talk about it off air, but there's a lot of interesting rumors with Hulk being in this. And uh Yeah, I can't think of what you're thinking of right now.

SPEAKER_03 20:27

Yeah, no, I mean obviously he's uh he's imp important when it comes to like gamma radiation, so it makes sense that he was like talking to Peter about what's going on with him and this morphing that's going on with Peter. I was gonna ask if they have digitally removed stuff. Do you think that it's possible that they digitally removed venom? Because the way that his eyes go black and the way in that one scene where there's something jumping from one to another, a lot of people were saying, Oh, that's Gene Gray. Uh that's like mind taking over people's minds one at a time. But it also looks like something is physically jumping, and then it's like it could theoretically be venom, and then also um there was a scene um like maybe he's not actually getting um physical webs or whatever, yeah, but instead is um it's like venom, the way that venom can like elongate and and swing around and stuff. That's true.

SPEAKER_01 21:32

Um shoot out his like tendrils in a way. Yeah, yeah. My theory is that Peter is not he's not turning into man spider. I know that's like the easiest.

SPEAKER_03 21:41

I don't think that either.

SPEAKER_01 21:43

Everyone's like, oh, he's mutating, he's turning into man spider. There's no way they would do that. First of all, it's just like too weird.

SPEAKER_03 21:49

Loses a billion dollars if that happens.

SPEAKER_01 21:51

Yeah, it's too weird for main mainline audience. Um I think he is adapting and changing and I I think that's an important aspect of it because we are establishing mutants. That's gonna be the next saga. It's gonna be mutants. Okay. And the big rumor, we got Sadie Sink in this. Uh it's practically confirmed that she's Gene Gray. So we got Gene Gray showing up in this. Okay. And potentially a lot of the times. Potentially, I guess. Uh if you're not sure.

SPEAKER_03 22:25

Yeah. It's a high percentage, but it's not.

SPEAKER_01 22:28

It's like 99%.

SPEAKER_03 22:31

I would I'd probably put it a little lower. 90%.

SPEAKER_01 22:34

Okay, okay. Well, um 10% variance. Fair enough, fair enough. My theory is that he's gonna be helping the Department of Damage Control. Okay. Okay. He's gonna be uh all of a sudden there's gonna be mutant issues, okay? Mm-hmm. There's gonna be some sort of mutant telepath, they're going after mutants, they have mutants in custody already. They're establishing uh Mr. Milchek, he's in this. Um he's the uh the head of the Department of Damage Control. That character he's playing hates mutants, okay? Oh he's gonna be working with Spider-Man to kind of like round up these these criminals, but really there a lot of them are mutants, and so he's helping them uh solve crime and like all this stuff, you know. So what it's probably why he's not arrested himself, because he's working with the Department of Damage Criminal. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:29

But he's not a mutant either.

SPEAKER_01 23:31

But he's not a mutant either, but he is a super individual, and we know from Wonder Man. He's an enhanced individual. They're yeah, they go after enhanced, powerful individuals. Um, anyways, um so there's gonna be like a telepath, something like that. Um they're gonna they're not gonna think it's Gene Gray, but they're gonna have Gene Gray try and help. That's why we see that shot of someone in a chair, like handcuffed to the chair. That's Gene Gray in some room. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Uh, I think it's gonna be a dark persona of Gene Gray, maybe a Madeline prior, but it's really just one person, and it's gonna be her different personas manifesting.

SPEAKER_03 24:17

Um is this related to the Phoenix? A little bit okay, because I hope they don't go Dark Phoenix route or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 24:25

That's what I'm saying. I'd I'm trying not to like say that they're going initially into Dark Phoenix. I think what they're gonna do is set up her having almost like a split personality with Madeline Pryor and Gene Gray. Because normally those are two separate characters. Madeline Pryor is a clone of Gene Gray, but so there's gonna be like uh an evil. So the whole time we're gonna think there's you know a telepath versus a telepath type situation, you know. It's Gene Gray versus some other mystery villain. Uh, really, it's just her the whole time, and Gene Gray's gonna like know who Peter Parker is because she's able to go into his mind and see the spell and see everything. And so this this is all gonna like unravel and then stuff's gonna be happening to Peter, and it's all it's gonna come together in some sort of web that I quite I don't quite understand yet. A web, yes. I did that intentionally, hey. But I think uh and Bruce Banner plays into this, he is uh an important part of this. Uh the Hulk specifically is an important part of this. So a lot of you savage Hulk fans, talking about you, Uncle, um, if you listen to this, uh uh Hulk might be showing up big time. Okay, let me just tell you. And Punisher was still gonna be there to try and put him down. Let me just say that. Uh oh, Punisher's there to put him down? I mean, uh that's my guess.

SPEAKER_03 25:48

Interesting by brain mullet. There was some theories online that Punisher was helping that tank that had the um the mind-controlled person in it. If we're splicing the the scenes together from a trailer, which is kind of hard to do, but anyways, if he was helping them, then um like um it'd be interesting like what his purpose is in the story, why they specifically have him. I mean, of course, it is New York, so there's also like the idea of just building up his thing, and then Keith David being the voice of um talking about the spiders evolving. Yes, I forgot what character in nature that isn't uh that isn't true, but uh sure but it's cool for the show.

SPEAKER_01 26:38

I think it's establishing kind of like the the spider totems in a way, like trying to discuss that in a lot of aspects. I forgot what character he's supposed to be playing.

SPEAKER_03 26:47

I don't know if it said he was just like a voiceover almost like he's watching a nature documentary or something.

SPEAKER_01 26:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:54

Oh, you think it's actually a character.

SPEAKER_01 26:57

A lot of uh there's a specific character, yes. Yes. Uh um again, I don't want to spoil anything because like a lot of this stuff could be potentially.

SPEAKER_03 27:05

Do I know the character?

SPEAKER_01 27:08

I didn't know the character, so I mean, so probably not. It's not it's not related to X-Men? I can't remember off the top of my dome. Okay. Like I said, I don't really know the character very interesting well, and so I'm I'm I don't think I would be able to give you the best information on that. I just gonna be a pretty crazy shit movie.

SPEAKER_03 27:32

Yeah, I was gonna say, do you know what I love about this? Is we both have different algorithms. Like we have somewhat similar at times, but we have different algorithms, and so like knowledge that you hear is different than knowledge that I hear, and it's it's all fascinating. Yeah, just what do you think of a percent? I know you're kind of maybe set in your ways, but what percentage do you believe it could be venom? Because I have some more evidence that it could be venom.

SPEAKER_01 28:00

I think venom could be tied into this. You know, they had that post-credit scene, um, his eyes turning that color was was weird. Very venom. That was that was weird, that was interesting. But could that also be tied to um Gene Gray? Could that be connected to some sort of uh telepath? I I'm not sure. Uh, I think it would be interesting if it was black suit Spider-Man going into Secret Wars or uh Doomsday into Secret Wars, uh, because in the original Secret Wars, Spider-Man gets the Venom suit, he gets that black suit in uh Secret Wars initially. Interesting, and then they later on they make it into the symbiote and it becomes Venom and it becomes this whole personality. He has to like rip it off, and you know, you get that iconic comic cover of him tearing off the Venom suit and everything like that. Yeah, yeah. But initially, like he does get the suit in that run of comic books.

SPEAKER_03 28:58

Um if you go back in the trailer, eventually, you don't have to do it right this second, but he's wearing black 90% of the trailer, minus times where he's not wearing anything, like no shirt or something. Yeah. Um, there's that scene also, if you remember, with the hooded person holding their arms out. Yeah. And a lot of people were thinking that was Gene Gray because the hood was covered up, but it's actually his coat. And so a lot of people were wondering if that is actually Venom in control at that time. And things are happening that way too. So I I mean, I think that what's fascinating is that there's two potentially plausible pathways that could be happening. There's like multiple ideas that people have, and so you know, sometimes you watch trailers and you're like, well, I know what the movie's gonna be now because I just saw the trailer, but I still am in the boat where I don't really know. Like all of these options, your whole explanation, the venom explanation, I mean, something completely different could also be. I mean, why is the hand a part of it? Like that doesn't even make sense in any sense of the uh if there's um what am I thinking of? Uh like an X-Men story. Did do the hand and X-Men ever get dealt with? I feel like they show up completely different worlds. They show up in New York, that's that's one thing. That's sure, sure. Yeah, and I think it's it just feels kind of it feels like there's too much because that also showed like a scene with tarantula, it showed a scene with a couple other of the OG Spider-Man villains, and that's where that idea of him being. Do you think that's just a montage?

SPEAKER_01 30:40

Like they that's a montage because one essential thing, like obviously, we're talking about Spider-Man mutating and getting like the natural webs. If you look at all those shots of like the iconic Spider-Man covers, yeah, because like they recreated all of those um directly from comic covers. That's something I wanted to I forgot to mention. It's super cool. A lot of those shots of him like fighting, yeah, with the website. Yeah, uh, but anyways, uh you he has the uh giant web slingers on his wrist, uh web shooters, I should say. And those are I think all from the beginning of the movie, the first half of the movie. It's gonna talk about him, it's gonna be some sort of montage, you know, we're gonna see all that. Uh, and then later on, as he's mutating, he's like changing and evolving, he's getting natural web shooters. Just like Toby. And uh because we don't see, I think it was intentional making those web shooters so big on his arm. For one thing, he doesn't have the Stark tech anymore, he's like kind of on his own, right? But he always just moved on them. He made he made the the synthetic, yeah, the webs, but the shooters itself was something that I think Tony like uh made for him. Yeah, because he made them all fancy and everything, but now he's got like bigger ones because he's on his own, he's not able to make the fanciest tech. Um, and I think it was intentional so that we could see this. And one thing that I think is so special about this trailer and why it's getting the buzz it is, is because of what we're doing right now, theory crafting. There's so many different theories and different avenues of speculation that we can go down because there's so many different things to discuss in the trailer. You got Punisher, you got uh Bruce Banner showing up. Why is the Hulk in this? They're not just gonna have Bruce Banner for a quick cameo, uh, especially with a lot of the rumors and stuff that I hear is gonna happen. You don't have Bruce Banner in the room with another telepath who can unlock the Hulk, or maybe another persona of Superman, maybe a gray Hulk, that's all I'm gonna say. Or another part of Bruce Banner, not Superman.

SPEAKER_03 32:55

I don't know why you said Superman. Did I say Superman?

SPEAKER_01 32:58

Well, I think Supergirl, uh the Supergirl betrayal. Yeah, yeah. Well, I have it pulled up on my other monitor to talk about next. So that's probably why that that came out. But uh, you don't have a telepath uh that's attacking uh New York or super people or going after the Department of Damage Control um without some crazy shenanigans going down, okay? Right, right. Yeah, so I mean that's gonna be interesting. And yeah, you're right. Like everyone has a different corner of the internet that uh they're in. And it's cool to see overlap because you know, we're all talking about the same thing, but we all have different theories around it. We all have different things that we notice in the trailer. Yeah, um, I just it's not man spider, please. It's not man spider. Stop it. I don't think so.

SPEAKER_03 33:47

There was someone saying something about like Mordo Spider-Man or something like that. Was uh something that people were calling it. I don't remember exactly what it was called, but essentially he gets spider abilities, but he doesn't turn into man spider. Like something happens where he's like close to death, and then like this transformation happens, he gets like spikes that are able to come out of his hand uh I know called the other, which is something that maybe it's the other, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:15

Like um, I don't know that specific storyline. Uh I'd be I'd be interested to see what uh some people are thinking.

SPEAKER_03 34:22

He gets like spider-eye vision, um, he gets spikes in his wrist, different things like that that make him um a little bit different, which would be interesting as well. But I like the mutations, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:36

I think one thing that's like either his so like we obviously know he's getting web shooters. Okay, that's like the big one, and then we know that he's getting some sort of weird vision, uh, whether that's spider vision, whether that's um his spidey sense being like enhanced almost. Uh yeah, so it it'll be interesting to see because the MCU, one thing they do is they always take stuff from the comic books, but they put their own twist on it. You know, it's always usually tamed down a little bit to fit within the MCU universe, because the MCU never gets as weird as the comics, because the comics has more leeway, they can get a little weirder. So I'll be curious to see how they adapt Spider-Man's story, and he also has so many different stories. And what I was gonna say is the Punisher works with the a group of like ninjas. I don't know if they're directly the hand, but he leads a a group of them at one point. So I wonder if they're gonna be related in that regard. Um, we know Punisher doesn't like to work with anyone, so that that'll be funny uh to see. But uh I don't think the Punisher is working for the Department of Damage Control. Oh, for sure not. Um so I think that's why Spider-Man told him to go away. And also Spider-Man just doesn't like the Punisher because Punisher kills everybody, you know. Um, so but you know who doesn't kill people? The son of Krypton, but his cousin does. Yep, Kara. Uh-huh. Let's lead it. Uh lead us into your favorite DC Universe. I'm excited for the DC Universe, man.

SPEAKER_03 36:19

I hate it. Wait. We have something else that we have to add into this trailer talk, and that's lanterns. We'll do that after Supergirl. We'll do that after Supergirl. Just real quick. We'll give we'll give two minutes. Come on, we'll give two minutes. You you being this MCU like junkie, and I'm over here like, please, let's talk about DC, please. Uh no, Supergirl trailer came out. Um, I think that this trailer, uh, this is the official trailer. I think this was a fantastic uh trailer. Uh, the music choice, the emotions. Um, yes, I do hear what you're saying, where there's like I haven't said anything.

SPEAKER_01 37:00

What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_03 37:01

Okay, well, in our personal talks, you talked about how it's similar to Guardians of the Galaxy 3. Yeah, I'll get in tone for sure. Yeah. Um, and maybe I'll wait to rebut that afterwards. But um from what I've heard and what I've seen, and I I want to actually read the Woman of Tomorrow issues uh of this supergirl. Uh, I have heard that they are surprised at what they showed because it's some stuff that's from the comic specifically.

SPEAKER_02 37:31

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 37:32

Um, like the crypto scenes, um, uh even like showing like what happened to the girl's parents, all of that is like straight ripped from the comics. Okay. So and I and I know I know you said, oh, Rocket was injured, and and then now crypto's injured, but actually in the comics, crypto was injured. And there was this John Wick thing. So actually, I I do have something for that. So James Gunn was fired from the MCU because of comments he said on his Twitter. Sure. He started to work on something else, and then was rehired to do one last movie while also working on the DCU, right? He like started working on the DCU after he got fired.

SPEAKER_01 38:17

And then I don't know if it was the DCU because he started working on Suicide Squad.

SPEAKER_03 38:21

Oh, that's right. Well, well, he did Suicide Squad and then but then he started like creating his own idea because then they like wanted to give him the job, and he said, sure, I'll take it, but then they he was brought back to do one more Guardians of the Galaxy. I wonder if he took ideas that he had for the DCU and kind of put it into the Guardians of the Galaxy 3. Yeah, I wonder if it's actually reverse. Because I don't know. I mean, Guardians of the Galaxy was never that popular of a series as a comic run. The movie made it popular with his movie. Yeah. And so I wonder if there was even a comic book run that was similar to that with the creator guy and Rocket and everything. Um and anyways, all that happened in there. So I just think the trailer was great. Uh, Lobo Lobo is a great addition. Jason Momoa is finally playing the character that he's wanted to play since he was like a teenager. Good for him. Finally getting to do it, and it's gonna be awesome. Um, yeah. And we got to see um David Cordon Sweat as Superman again for a few seconds. That was really cool. Uh, and I like I I like um what people were talking about. They were saying uh Superman is like hope personified, and in this um Kara's gonna find her hope. There we go. Um she doesn't have it right now because she had a way different upbringing than he did. Oh yeah, you know, and it makes sense. So witnessing the destruction of Krypton. Yeah, cool. Because she's like 10 years older than him, technically. But he went through like a wormhole and he made it to Earth faster than she did.

SPEAKER_01 40:05

Yeah, yeah. She was kind of in almost in like stasis almost. Right, right, yeah. Yeah, because she shows up, I think, in in comics and she's younger than him, but technically she was born before him.

SPEAKER_03 40:19

Yeah, it's it's weird time timey whimey stuff. Anyways, let me know what you think. I I I love the trailer. It brought a tear to my eye.

SPEAKER_01 40:27

Oh wow, that that good, huh?

SPEAKER_03 40:30

It was moving.

SPEAKER_01 40:31

Dang, okay. Um I uh so Supergirl, so the official teaser came out three months ago, and that's sitting at 24 million views. The Supergirl official trailer, not the teaser, came out two days ago, and it was fresh on the topics, uh, currently, as we record. Um that's sitting at 17 million views. So uh pretty good, pretty good, pretty solid start. Um, I think this trailer was a thousand times better than the teaser. I think it just had a better tone to it. Um the music, uh, the action, the uh the the character dialogue and discussion, everything about it just like fit better. Like I had a better feeling for what this movie is, and obviously a teaser can only give you glimpses of that, right? But I think the teaser kind of was just it it kind of left more of a sour taste, and like it felt like Supergirl meets Guardians of the Galaxy. This, like, obviously, there's still some similar tones, and uh set design looks very guardians in a lot of ways. Like the villain just like looks like a Ravenger uh in in some aspects, you know, like taser face, uh kind of. But um, yeah, I don't know. I think when I watched this, I I had a better feeling about this. And and what you said about like her finding her hope. I think you know, throughout the trailer, you see her kind of just like in her trench coat. She's kind of just like, you know, however. Um, and then later in the movie, we see her in her uniform, or at least later in the trailer, we see her in her uniform, uh, her official uh the uh the L family sigil, you know, the the S I should say. Um, yeah, I think that's symbolic of her like going on this this important journey of rediscovering what it means uh or discovering what it means to be a hero and uh to have hope and bring hope to people. Uh and it'll be cool to see the cosmic side of the DCU because we we also have the the Green Lanterns coming out, but apparently that's not gonna touch on the cause the cosmic side uh quite yet. Uh maybe eventually, but I think this will be cool because we get to see what James Gunn has in store for us in terms of uh the galaxy of this universe that he's creating. Because you know, we've only seen we've seen not even a fraction of what uh the potential is for this, so I'll I'll be interested to see where he goes.

SPEAKER_03 43:14

Yeah. Um also the director is obviously not James Gunn in this, it's Craig Galepsky. Yeah. Um, and he did uh Cruella, and he also did I Tanya, um, and so all movies with uh female led, so I'm excited to see um what he does. And of course, I think if I remember correctly, James Gunn said it was so which is funny because it does look very James Gunn esque, uh, but he did say that he gave free reign to all of the directors to give it their own style. Um I also think because Guardians of the Galaxy happened first. It's also similar to like Star Wars in a sense. Like Star Wars kind of like initially set the stage for what like space movies look like. They were emulating that for a long time. So then Guardians came out, and it developed like James Gunn had this very unique look of it of how planets look, the way that it all looks. And now they're making Supergirl, and of course, it looks a little Guardian's y. I think because it's just such an iconic way of doing it. I think there were other shows that were also copying other shows in the past, whether for good or bad, it just happens. Um that's why I love it.

SPEAKER_01 44:40

I I think the comparison though is more because like James Gunn is the president of the company. That's why I think more like yeah. I think that's the main thing. It's like if George Lucas was leading a different story, like working on a different story, and uh, you know, it looked like Star Wars, people would be like, is this this looks like Star Wars?

SPEAKER_03 45:03

Well well, look at look at Dave Fallone. He's not he's not uh George Lucas, but he does things in the similar style.

SPEAKER_01 45:13

Sure, yeah, because he's working in that universe.

SPEAKER_03 45:16

Right, yeah. Yeah. Uh but I don't know. Anyways, um I was gonna say I'll be excited to see the other DCU movies as well that'll be coming out. I'm sure we'll be getting a Clayface trailer soon. Clayface without Batman. That sounds really good. Hey, you don't know that Batman's not in it.

SPEAKER_01 45:34

Clayface without Batman.

SPEAKER_03 45:36

Pretty sure they pretty sure they've been alluding that that one guy's already cast as Batman. And uh he's gonna be in it.

SPEAKER_01 45:45

Should we make a bet here?

SPEAKER_03 45:47

Okay, sure, sure.

SPEAKER_01 45:49

A bet?

SPEAKER_03 45:50

Uh okay.

SPEAKER_01 45:51

What are we doing? Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03 45:53

The bet that Batman at least shows up as a cameo.

SPEAKER_01 45:56

Oh, come on. I think they could totally do that. They could do that without the actual case.

SPEAKER_03 46:03

Not like a news reel, but like in a scene.

SPEAKER_01 46:08

I mean, you could just do him in a cowl, like standing over Clay. Okay, okay. Fine.

SPEAKER_03 46:13

Okay, not a cameo, then a a at least one voice line. Because a cameo has no voice lines.

SPEAKER_01 46:21

Here's the thing. Well, I guess it technically could have a voice line, but I don't think they're gonna have Batman in it. They could have a cameo, they could have him show up in some regard. I don't think he's gonna be like an antagonist to Clayface at all. And so it's just gonna be a good one.

SPEAKER_03 46:37

I think he's gonna be the horror of it.

SPEAKER_01 46:40

I don't know, man. I think the horror is gonna be clayface transforming who he was, yeah, or who he is.

SPEAKER_03 46:48

Oh, that's fair. Anyways, that'll be exciting to see. And also lanterns, I just wanted to mention that a bit. Uh, it has very good true detective vibes to like one mentor lanter teaching his replacement. Um and I know you were saying that, you know, maybe sucks that it's not going cosmic yet, but I think if I remember correctly, the Green Lanterns are designed, sure, they're cosmic by nature because they come from this like cosmic like order. But they're space police, bro. Yes, but they are placed at planets.

SPEAKER_01 47:23

They they have their sectors to defend, but it's a sector, you know.

SPEAKER_03 47:27

Yeah, yeah. But like, so like their sector is Earth. Earth and the surrounding area, yeah. Sure, but but like, you know, a lot of things happen on Earth sometimes that they have to deal with. Who knows?

SPEAKER_01 47:38

Yeah. I think it's it is gonna be a a pretty decent show. I think what a lot of people are kind of like bummed about is it seems they're like they're afraid to look too much like Green Lanterns. Like it they're like afraid of the uniforms. Um they showed the uniform in the trailer though. Yeah, I know, and people hate it. They hate it?

SPEAKER_03 48:01

I I I thought it was fine.

SPEAKER_01 48:03

Yeah, I don't know. I I've I saw a lot of people that were upset about it. Um I mean, technically, if I were.

SPEAKER_03 48:08

People are making like joke reels about it, and yeah. Technically, the uniform is not supposed to be something like that that you can take off, but instead manifested from the ring itself. Exactly. So it'll be interesting. Maybe that's something that Jon Stewart discovers in the new one.

SPEAKER_01 48:26

And obviously, he's being trained by Hal Jordan at this point. Um, we don't know really where this is gonna lead. Um apparently it's supposed to establish kind of like the overarching, like like where all of this is gonna go. Um at least uh maybe giving a hint to the Thanos level villain that's gonna be uh waiting at the end of uh uh gods and monsters, I think is what James Gunn is calling it. Uh so do you think it's gonna be? I don't really know. I think it's someone weird. Um I think it's gonna be someone weird for sure. It's it's not someone we know. It's definitely not dark side um as much as I wish it would be. Is Nestro too weak to be a big villain? Uh for the entirety of the DCU? Yeah, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 49:17

I guess are are all the bad rings, if they were all together, like red, orange, yellow.

SPEAKER_01 49:24

All of them together? Yeah, like an army of them. If they were teaming up. I mean, first of all, they would never they would never team up, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:31

That's right. Um that's fair. But but I what maybe that's not true because like blue and green team up all the time.

SPEAKER_01 49:38

Yeah, they enhance each other, but fear and anger don't really well. I don't know if they I can't think, I don't think they bolster each other at all. Greed definitely doesn't uh change. Orange. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, orange. Um I'm trying to think. Oh, it's it's fascinating. I love I love the the color spectrum uh Green Lantern powers and all that stuff. It's so cool.

SPEAKER_03 50:00

Oh eventually seeing white and black rings. Oh yeah. Also pink rings. It's gonna be incredible. And indigo. Oh, yep, yep. Compassion.

SPEAKER_01 50:13

Alright.

SPEAKER_03 50:14

Um, I think that's all our trailers, right? I think pretty exciting.

SPEAKER_01 50:19

Yeah, Supergirl, the uh last daughter of Krypton. Krypton. Um yeah, I'm excited.

SPEAKER_03 50:25

I I I like what he's doing. I know you still are a little more from when we were talking about it. You're you're still like it could it's not what it could have been in your mind. It's maybe missing a bit. Yeah. I in my mind it hit every note. I could not happier.

SPEAKER_01 50:43

I think I'll be happier once I see more mainline uh characters come into this. Um you know, when I see a Batman and a flash and I see a flash, or like I see like how this is gonna look when everything comes together. Because I'm sure he has it in his mind, but can he execute uh and put it all together in a way that's satisfying and that we can look back on similar to the Infinity saga? Can we look back on Gods and Monsters and be like, that was awesome. I love it. I'm gonna go back and watch Superman the way I watched uh Iron Man, you know. That that's what I'm hoping.

SPEAKER_03 51:24

So I would say it's a little different than the Infinity Saga because that's like three phases, and this is technically just one phase that's gods and monsters, right? Yeah, but I think it's uh I guess uh yeah, but so it would be the same as after after we watched Avengers 1.

SPEAKER_01 51:42

So it'd be a like a Loki level threat is gonna be at the end of Gods and Monsters. Right. Interesting, yeah. But who's gonna be behind it all? Obviously, it's not gonna be a one-to-one comparison of like oh, where's the Thanos? Like Doomsday? We're not you say that Doomsday? No, Doomsday's gonna they'll be maybe they'll do a Death of Superman type thing, but they already kind of did that with uh Batman versus Superman with Cal. That's true. With uh Well yeah, they already had Doomsday.

SPEAKER_03 52:10

Wait a minute, yeah. Uh General Zod's always good, but he's only a Superman villain.

SPEAKER_01 52:16

He's not necessarily a exactly I think he's doing everything Brainiac's I mean I think he's probably top of the list. Brainiac's in the trailer, I think. This trailer. Yeah. I guess I should like I think so. That scene where he she's looking at her dad and she gets shot out, and that dome is going over the city of Cantor, I think is what it's called.

SPEAKER_02 52:38

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 52:39

It's going over that city as everything else crumbles around. That's Brainiac saving a little piece of Krypton for himself to like collect. That shield, that's him. That's the one.

SPEAKER_03 52:50

And they were sending her out before it gets covered.

SPEAKER_01 52:53

Yeah. So his d her dad was saving her from being like imprisoned by Brainiac. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I think.

SPEAKER_03 53:01

So not him physically, but like his presence.

SPEAKER_01 53:04

Yeah. And so, I mean, in a way, could Brainiac be the Thanos? I mean, maybe. Maybe he's orchestrating everything against uh you know, the DCU. He's he's that genius of a villain. He's not obviously punch em up type character, but he he uh he creates things that are yeah, he for sure does.

SPEAKER_03 53:26

Um My Adventures with Superman was so good with Brainiac. I still highly recommend if you haven't seen it. That's a really good show. Okay, yeah, I know. I I loved it, the animation and everything. Uh should we get into Project Hail Mary?

SPEAKER_01 53:40

Uh I think we should discuss uh another Kryptonian-esque hero, uh a Vilcher Mite named Mark Grayson. Uh-huh. He's got a season four of his show. Um it's uh it seems like it's quite the invincible show. It is just super strong. Um, that was a horrible pun on my part. Just uh no, no, it's uh the season started out uh pretty strong. Uh season four, lowest rated show or episode of the series, unfortunately. But season or episode five, absolutely insane. There will be spoilers for this. Uh just a heads up. Uh, we will be discussing some crazy moments. Uh, it's kind of just gonna be us discussing our favorite moments of the series and uh what we want to see uh from the end. Sure. Or where it's gonna end, I guess I should say.

SPEAKER_03 54:37

I'll be honest, you told me to watch episode five, and I just completely skipped three and four and went to episode five. What? Yeah, so I I watched one, two, and five. You son of a great What did I not see?

SPEAKER_01 54:57

Okay, so you didn't see Mark you didn't see Mark kill the guy in episode four. Um Mark's dark side. Yeah, okay. Um so you know the sequids, the little squid things that wrap. Oh no, I saw that. I saw that. You saw him punch that guy's face? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:15

That was that not episode three? Oh, maybe maybe I did see like I think that was actually part of episode two.

SPEAKER_01 55:24

Maybe it was.

SPEAKER_03 55:25

Because episode three is when the aliens come in.

SPEAKER_01 55:27

The Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_03 55:30

So I saw that I saw this equid thing, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:33

Robot and uh Monster Girl, they get trapped on the other side. Right.

SPEAKER_03 55:37

Um I was like, what do they mean?

SPEAKER_01 55:39

Yeah. So I guess um some for what I know from other like uh YouTubers is that uh watching breakdowns, Monster Girl and uh Robot are about to go, or Rex are about to go on a crazy crazy journey. Side mission. Yeah, it's gonna lead into an interesting arc. I don't know if this leads into I I don't want to spoil anything because I don't know what you know.

SPEAKER_03 56:08

I mean, I know I know what Robot does.

SPEAKER_01 56:10

Oh, okay. So I don't know if it's gonna lead into that or not, but uh Yeah I mean I'm hoping yeah yeah I'm hoping that the show just continues to be good.

SPEAKER_03 56:20

I I really like uh like I said, I I was having trouble there for a bit in episode three uh at the beginning of it. I was just like I'm not feeling it, and then episode four came out and I heard all of the discourse around it, and I thought, yeah, I don't need to watch it. And then you told me episode five, you have to watch before the podcast. So then I watched it and I loved it. Um talk about the most brutal end to an episode I've ever seen. Oh come on, you're not yeah, come on. Yeah, no, gut wrenching is a great term for it. Like literally just conquest death throws. He was literally one millisecond away from dying, and he's just like, I'm gonna take him out with me. Yeah. But obviously, we know the show's invincible, so he's not gonna die. Well, of course not, you know. Because we also saw there was the Viltramite there, the um I'm sorry, the black Viltramite. Yeah, Lokan. I can't remember his name, but uh it's like Lokan or something. He had his guts hanging out of his stomach. Yeah. And so, like, obviously Viltramites can survive that, but the way he was just pulling it out of it was.

SPEAKER_01 57:38

Oh, I know. And what was insane about that scene is just the silence of it. It's just him and Mark and the sound. And Mark just like kind of like whimpering and also just like grunting and like trying to he's holds on to his.

SPEAKER_03 57:52

I just love yeah, yeah, he just did not let it be.

SPEAKER_01 57:54

The strength of Mark to be able to like take that beating when like last season.

SPEAKER_03 57:59

But he's used to it, he's getting beat every season.

SPEAKER_01 58:02

I know. He's thinking he's the strongest.

SPEAKER_03 58:06

There's a reason why there's a reason why he's the main character and not another person.

SPEAKER_01 58:11

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 58:12

Um I do know that there's also um I don't have any I I've I've read some of the comics to at least know what happens in the story, but I don't have a like a super built-up like nostalgia for it. So the tech jacket change I am not too upset about, but there's a lot of discourse around it. Um because tech jacket is a guy in the comics, uh, and he also gets his own spin-off series, and so a lot of the OG Invincible fans feel like it is a slap in the face of what that character is to gender swap him. Um they say it's one thing for the person that could then I can't remember her name, but she was like able to oh shrink Ray. Um because that is also a gender swap. Um, you know, most of the time they don't bother me too much, and like this one doesn't bother me too much because I don't have nostalgia, but if tech jacket was that important of a character, it's like if you change Peter Parker to be a girl, and there's like, yeah, this just Petrina Parker, and just completely erase all the history of him. It's like, well, okay, now maybe we're getting somewhere.

SPEAKER_01 59:23

I know there's some drama with tech jacket's gender swap, and uh one thing I've really liked about the show is like it is like the comic book, obviously. Like it is like in very in every in a lot of ways it's beat for beat, but there he's getting a second chance to do what he wants and to um change the story in ways that he thinks is uh for the better. Robert Kirkman, that is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the things that he's doing is he's adding depth to a lot of these side characters, you know, because a lot of these characters are just there to support and prop up Invincible. Sure. You know, when you're doing a comic book, no one really cares about reading side stuff about um, you know, any of these characters, you know, Mark's mom, uh freaking her and Paul hanging out having dinner. Like no one really cares about a lot of these side stuff. So what he's doing with the TV show, because it's a different medium, and we'll we'll do this podcast one day where we talk about the different mediums of storytelling. We're gonna, I I wanna do it. It'll be a great, it'll be a great episode. Uh but what I think he's doing is he's really flushing out these characters and giving them more than just being uh instruments for Mark's storytelling. Um like because I've been watching these breakdowns on Heavy Spoilers, which is a fantastic sh uh channel. I highly recommend it. Best Invincible breakdowns out there. Um he uses this reach researcher who goes by I think the the handle on uh Twitter or X or whatever uh of Fat Thor, uh which is great. Um, but he's like an expert on Invincible, I guess. But uh so he's been helping heavy spoilers with a lot of these uh stuff. But I think what what he's pointed out a lot of the changes, you know, when like this scene happens in the comic books and how it happens in the TV show, and from what everything I've seen in comparison, like he's just doing more to make these characters their own and not just instruments of Invincible Mark Grayson. Uh so I really like that in a lot of ways with Tech Jacket to circle make a big circle, go back to Tech Jacket. I think they're trying to flush out this character in in different ways. You know, he doesn't have much of a story arc from what I've learned in those breakdown videos. Um he has like some side mission stuff. Uh he uh but what I think they're doing with tech jacket is they're now relating tech jacket, they're uh adding her to uh Oliver, they're making that a thing to develop those characters because even Oliver, even Oliver has been more of a tool to prop up Invincible in a lot of ways. So I think what they're doing is flushing out their care these characters and making them their own. I don't really care about gender swapping in a lot of ways. Um, I don't think it's doing something as drastic as making Peter Parker uh a girl. You know, they're not tech jacket, doesn't have the same um fan love or uh appreciation, I think, that uh a Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:48

I think you I think you're saying some really wrong things right now, bro. Uh Tech Jacket has his own comic book series.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:56

He is not Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:58

I know, but I'm just I'm just saying that he's not just having your own series.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:03

Having your own series, bro, Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur have a a comic book series. No one knows about them.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:11

But what I'm saying, what I'm trying to say is like in the invincible okay, that's fair. Is are those Marvel characters?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:18

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:18

That's fair. There is a thousand Marvel characters more important than those two. Out of the Invincible universe, there are two series. There's the Invincible series, and then there's Tech Jacket.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:32

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:33

That is how that the levels. It's not it's not like Monster Girl got her own comic book series and no one really cares about her. You know what I mean? Tech Jacket is way more important. Again, I don't have the nostalgia for it, so it doesn't affect me as much, but I can see why it affects people. Like I just looked up tech jacket comic, and there's like compendiums of tech jacket comics. Like this person is a fleshed out character that he decided to gender swap for some reason.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:00

Again, I don't have an issue with that. From what I've seen, it's nothing like I don't see what it's doing that's gonna damage the character, other than people being upset that it's a girl now instead of a guy. Like, what about the gender swap is upsetting? Is it because it's a girl now instead of a guy?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:20

A lot of people think that the only reason is that um tech jacket looked similar to Mark, and so they gender swap to keep the characters looking different, which might have been just an issue with uh with like Robert Kirkman maybe drawing them similar, like the two main characters of two different series similar.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:38

Um I think I think the bigger thing is that the invincible crew that goes to fight in the Vilcham War is like just a boys' club in a lot of ways. He's he's adding a female character in that aspect to diversify it a little bit. Yeah, there is that, and I think people get upset about that stuff, which is you know their own issue, but I also think that this is gonna flush the character out in a better way by making her and Oliver uh a thing to explore. You can explore these characters through that relationship in ways that separates them from their own. Um, because something like I said, I only know the information I know from those breakdown videos.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:24

Yeah, I I don't want to say anything definitive unless I read the comics, but the fact that he has his own comic series makes you feel like he's a little bit more important than like Paul and Invincible's mom.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:37

Sure, but I mean, like I was.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:39

I don't and I also I also benefit of the doubt, I don't think that it's a woke thing. Like they're like, oh, it's so woke, they're changing it. I think there's plenty of other things that you can get mad at besides that. I think it's specifically because they like this character check jacket and they changed him to a girl. For whatever reason, maybe they resonated with the character. Uh obviously, we could still resonate. With someone like Mark or you know, whoever. Um, but but uh maybe people really, as teenagers, resonated with this tech jacket character that they now cannot because it's a girl character.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:13

Sure, sure. But uh something else that I was gonna say about this is um Robert Kirkman having a chance to rewrite this story. The Invincible Story is already out, like it's out there, it exists as it is. This TV show is is something else. So like I I don't think it diminishes the story by this existing. I think in other ways it's just opening the doors for other people to get into it. That story, like Tech Jacket still exists, and like I and I and I get like being attached to a character and liking a character for who they are. Um but this isn't I it it it's tough. It's tough to like I'm I'm trying to defend the show because I really like it and uh I do like some of the choices. And obviously, you and I don't have the connection to Tech Jacket, so I mean who knows? Maybe someone like that likes tech jacket can explain it to us.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:16

Maybe we'll do our research uh to see what I have a friend who read through all the comics, I'll I'll maybe ask him.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:22

Yeah, yeah. Um, and then uh always circle back to this. Um, you know, and if at the end of this season we're like, man, tech jacket sucks. Um like but I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:35

I don't think just because yeah, again, I don't have an issue with it, yeah, but I can see why others might have an issue with it if they had grown an attachment to the character.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:46

But and that's totally understandable. And I and I don't mean to diminish those people's feelings if they gener genuinely have it. I'm I'm gonna push back on the people that are just upset because uh it's you know, because a lot of people I think can sometimes jump on the boat and be like they gender swap these characters, but they don't have that connection to tech jacket that we know.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:12

Yeah, there's always bad people and everything.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:14

Yeah, there's it's the internet, you know, it's uh the Thunderdome, as uh some people say.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:19

But I would say the majority of people still like don't mind the female characters like uh um like Adam Eve and stuff. Like she's an awesome character. And I think if she wasn't having a power issue, she would probably have been on this mission. Because she's powerful enough to take on Viltrams. I mean, I know why she isn't. She already said that she's pregnant.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:45

No, I don't, it's not about that. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:49

I don't want to say anything.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:51

Because you you and I know stuff about I'm not gonna be like you and Locke already got mad at me for bringing up.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:57

I I already knew the I already no no, I I know everything. I know how the show ends. Okay, or I know how the series ends.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:09

Um I mean you can cut out this next like 10 seconds or whatever that I'm gonna say.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:13

No, we can just talk about it later.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:15

Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:16

It's not it's not that serious.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:18

But uh, anyways, um uh should we go into Project Hail Mary? Did you want to do your little Daredevil rant real quick?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:26

Mm-mm.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:27

I mean we could wave. Um it's up to you.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:31

I think real quick, um I'll just yeah, I'll just talk about Daredevil born again. Uh so season one, complete trash. I watched trash if you have I finished it, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:45

So I watched one for the team on the I watched till he fought um Muse. Yeah, Muse. And that's when I stopped, was after that. I was like, that's a cool fight, but I was kind of like, I didn't like starting.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:58

Makes absolutely no sense that Muse could even fight him at all. Sure. Anyways. Maybe there's some backstory there. They added backstory to the character, but in the comics he never had uh Taekwondo. Could have been really cooling. Yeah. Anyways, uh, someone that's a a champion level taekwondo fighter should not be able to fight Daredevil. I'm sorry, it's just not comparable. Competition level fighting is not the same as life and death. Muse in the comic books isn't he's not a fighter like that. But, anyways, that season sucked. It sucked, okay. I don't care what people tell you on the internet. Oh, it was actually pretty good. It was pretty good, blah blah blah. No, you watch the Netflix series, it's phenomenal, phenomenal. It's probably one of my favorite superhero TV shows ever, if not my favorite one. Invincible's up there as well, probably top five. Um, Daredevil might be number one. The Netflix Daredevil might be number one. X-Men 97's up there. I'm trying to think maybe some other ones. I don't know, it's really tough. Loki might be up there. Maybe. I don't know. I like Loki, but not the way other people do. Anyway, side tangent, my goodness, back on track. Daredevil Netflix series, amazing. They tried to recreate it in a lot of ways, like similar shots that add that feel that makes it like it, but it's missing all the aspects, like the heart. It's kind of like a husk of what it once was. Um, season two now, going to season two, because I don't want to linger on this too long. Season two is uh better. It's better. Okay, it's just really fast paced. The pacing is insane. You're just like blowing through scenes like crazy. Uh, it's it's happening really fast. And maybe I'm being unfair because um I'm I'm watching another show with my wife called The Lincoln Lawyer, and like scenes you're able to just like sit in in that show. And Daredevil, my goodness, like characters talk, and then it's another scene. It's just it's so fast-paced. But I will say, um, I do like what's happening more in this. Um and we'll see. She's supposed to show up. Um, she hasn't yet, okay. Not yet. Um, so where I'm at, uh, which I haven't finished episode two, or no, I haven't I finished episode two. I'm going into episode three. That there's only three episodes out for season two. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um Bullseye's shown up. Um, and uh he's saved. Yeah, and he saved Daredevil. Um well so yeah, I guess well, you know, he's gonna be a good one.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:52

I guess I have spoilers from season one.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:55

Yeah, he killed Foggy, obviously. Yeah, yeah, I remember that and then he's yeah, he's still alive. Um uh yeah, he's out of prison somehow. Uh or he escaped from Daredevil. That's the thing. Why did he, huh? That's what they're trying to figure out. Got it. Team Daredevil. But, anyways, um it's it's going in an interesting direction. Yeah, right. Um he's like, okay, he's right. Daredevil's yeah, anyways. Um he's coming after Kingpin, that's bullseye's whole thing. But uh so we'll see. We'll see. I don't know. I don't know. But uh what I wanted to just say about Daredevil Born Again is it's the season is feeling pretty good. I'm not gonna say it's good, I'm not gonna say it's a must-watch. If you really don't care that much about Daredevil, don't bother. The Netflix one might make you a fan of the character. You watch that Netflix one, it's so good. It's so, so good. I can't stress it enough.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:04

Yeah, everyone who watches it likes it.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:08

I haven't seen anyone who hasn't. I know. I'm I'm trying to get I'm trying to get my wife to watch it. Nice. But we'll see.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:18

Um yeah, I think I'm gonna. That's my rant. That's my rant. I got Caitlin to watch it. I'll be next. Um let's see. Before we go into last thing, I'll just say one thing. Um uh Yoslo's uh anime corner. Uh JJK new season was really good. Season three, the Colon Games arc. If anybody's anime watchers here, Jujitsu Kaisen, it's a good show. Highly recommend it.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:43

Comment down below if you like JJK. The anime.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:49

Yeah. It's so good. It's so good, yeah. I watched it again, the final episode again today.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:58

It sure blows invincible out of the water. I don't understand. An animation, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:02

It does for sure. Uh but the difference is that uh in Japan they just lock their animators in a room and say work for 20 hours.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:09

Oh, yeah, they don't they don't really treat them very well. Um that's for sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:13

Uh but the animators are good. But uh, anyways, uh should we move into our last thing?

SPEAKER_01 1:15:20

Yeah, Project Hail Mary.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:22

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:24

Uh Andy Wire, one of my favorite authors uh in terms of more hard sci-fi. Um he's great. He is fantastic. Um, I I was locked in from The Martian. I even liked Artemis, uh Project Hail Mary. Uh I hadn't read it. Um, I saw it all over Book Talk and uh on social media. Everyone's talking about it so good. And then a movie is announced, and I'm like, oh shoot, I gotta lock in. So I get in on my Kindle, I read it, and uh it's an amazing book. Uh I I can't stress it enough. It is a phenomenal book, and the movie, the movie is incredible. It is one of the best experiences I've had in theaters in a long, long time. And uh yeah, I got to see it in IMAX 70 millimeter. Um nice biggest IMAX in Minnesota. Those scenes in that movie, it's fantastic, it's perfect. Obviously, if you haven't seen it, go out and see it. Uh, you know, we won't get too much into the details. I think this is just an overall review that we're gonna do here. But if if I were to give it a rating from the acting, the cinematography, from just the writing, the adaption of book to movie, it's it's fantastic. It's so good. It's so so good. Um, it's a movie that I know I'm gonna like have a physical copy of. Like, I I need a physical copy of it. I'm yeah, I love it. I love it, man. It's a it's a great movie. It's 10 out of 10 for me. Five out of five. I know you like to do out of five. Yep, yep, yep. Um, yeah, it's and that's that's all I can say about it. It's it's tough to put words to something like that. Um, you just gotta experience it and other people will get it.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:41

Uh, the reason I do five out of five is uh just because I feel like you can it's hard when you look at a movie that's rated a six out of ten compared to a movie that's rated three point five out of five. A three point five out of five sounds way better than a six out of ten, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:05

Sure. Yeah, I guess so. But maybe that's easier for some people to visualize.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:11

Sure. I I don't know. And and also when you think of a five-star restaurant, you don't think of a ten-star restaurant, you think of a five-star restaurant.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:18

Sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:19

Or a five-star review on something else. I don't know. I just I I like the five-star rating. I I I don't mind the 10-star rating, but you could also get really granular with it and do like 9.2 or 7.8, or you know. Anyways, I'm getting too locked into this. Uh Project Hail Mary. I also uh read the book. I'm trying to remember exactly what I saw. I feel like I may have heard that it was gonna be a movie, but this was like early stages. Like it was like literally the only thing that we heard was that Ryan Gosling was cast in this thing called Project Hail Mary. And I was like, that sounds interesting. Literally, there was nothing else about it. I didn't hear anything else about it. It was really early, I think early 2020, like mid-2024. I don't know, it has been a while, but anyways, um uh then I I got it on Audible, and the the guy he he said it so or he he read it so well, the voices that he had for the two main characters was just so nice.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:25

And I've heard some clips, yeah. He's he's incredible.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:29

I in the same way that you would put the guy that does Red Rising up there, I would put this guy like way up there as well. Um I know that he only does technically like two or three characters versus you know the Red Rising guy. That's a big comparison here, dude. I mean, I'm telling you, bro, he he is beloved by everyone. Yeah, yeah. Um they they can't stop. Um and uh anyways, but like if we like look at it from just all the different aspects, characters, I think Ryland Grace and Rocky are incredible. If we look at um the depth of them, um the accuracy to the books, I think is very good. Um at first I was like, I mean, I had heard that Ryan Gossing was cast, but then I read the book and I at first didn't see it, but then you know, as I started seeing like more production pictures and stuff, I was like, you know, I think he might actually work perfectly for this role. Um because of just how smart he was, I just like there was something about it. I was like, not that not that Ryan Gossing can't be smart, but there was like, you know, something about it. Uh but anyways, then um uh a Rocky uh being a full puppet. Um again, we're not getting too much into spoilers, but I guess this is probably fine to say. Uh but like that the fact that the fact that he's a full puppet, like the production design, how they had him, because it's a spaceship movie, like how they had him inside of a spaceship like set all by himself, and then he had this little puppet that was with him that this puppeteer was manning and like and the reper um repertoire that they built with each other, or the rapport, uh, just to give that puppeteer the actual voice acting job, um, because he was so like the chemistry was so high between him and Ryan Gosling. Yeah, just incredible. And then I also heard things where where they uh I don't know, I don't know who told me, but they were saying that they they would like for certain scenes they would get like Ryan Gosling's daughter to read off one of the lines.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:40

Yeah, yeah, I heard about that.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:42

He would just like ball his eyes out, and it's like some of those scenes where it's like true emotion because it was like the first time you heard his daughter in a while, and also it was a sad line, and that's super cool. And uh, yeah. Um, I mean, obviously the story's great. Um unfortunately with movies you're working with way less words than the book, so you lose a lot in the translation, but I think they did a good job on adapting it. Yeah. Um, I also like where they kind of expanded it on times, and um if Andy Weir is okay with it, I wouldn't be mad if they did a second movie, but I don't know how they do a second movie. I know someone already wants it.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:25

He did uh an interview on Nerd of the Rings, actually. Um really yeah, just like a quick like 10-minute interview. Um but uh he discussed uh he doesn't have a he's not working on a sequel of anything. He doesn't really do sequels, right? But he is working on a new book, so uh a fifth book in his catalog, because he has I think four total.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:50

I've never read Artemis, and I don't know what the other mystery book is.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:54

Uh I forgot what the other book's called. So he has The Martian, Artemis, Project Hail Mary, and there's another book, and then now he's working on uh uh number five, I'm pretty sure. Very good. Uh I could be mistaken, but um but yeah, I I'll be I mean I wish that we could get a sequel just to see, but I think it all uh also just leaves at a perfect place.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:21

It ends at a perfect part. You literally don't need to ever go on without even yeah, it just and it it ends what I love about his story. It ends exactly how the book does.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:31

Yeah, I will say something about Andy Wire, uh, is he writes happy endings, like his his books all have very tight happy endings, and I and I think that's great. I think that is so great.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:48

Um I mean I'm a fan of a tragedy as much as the next, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:54

I love Anakin, but sometimes I want to see uh him and Padme run off into the in the into the stars together. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:03

Yeah. Um Andy Weir's a good author. I have actually not read any of his other books besides Project Hail Mary. Um I I should read The Martian and I should read Artemis, especially because he's two for two on books getting adapted. Like, do you think I think you've read Artemis, right? Yeah. Is there a possibility that it gets adapted?

SPEAKER_01 1:24:29

I think it would be a better it would be a better TV show. They could do an Apple TV show on Artemis, and I think it would be cool.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:36

Did you ever watch Expanse?

SPEAKER_01 1:24:39

Did I did I ever watch Expanse? Yeah, I'm watching. Yes, I watched Expanse. I can't remember. I was watching Expanse as soon as it came out. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:47

You and me both. Okay, I'll do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:48

Yeah, you and you were our m your channel was almost an expanse channel.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:53

It was, dude. I I could have made it an expanse channel, but then I never watched season four, five, or six.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:58

Yeah, I stopped watching. Um I I want to get back to it. And that's something you just like I have to watch it all over again, though.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:06

I have to start.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:07

No, I think I can I I'm not gonna start from the beginning. I'm just gonna jump in where I left off. Just maybe watch a recap or uh I think shows do recaps three.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:16

It was right when the portal opened. See, I sorry, I'm in the portal.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:22

I'm in the portal. So but anyways, what were you gonna say about the expanse?

SPEAKER_03 1:25:26

But anyways, I was just gonna say, do you think it would be comparable? Because you've read Artemis. Like, do you think there's a chance it could be comparable, like the story?

SPEAKER_01 1:25:34

No, no, no, it's not comparable. Uh it's not on that scale. Artemis is such a small story. It's it's the city, Artemis.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:43

Are you sure it can't be a movie then? Because movies are usually more small scale than TV shows. It could be a limited series. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:48

I think it would fit better as a limited series, in my opinion. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:53

Um I'll I'll have to read it. I I definitely wanted to get back to Andy Weir's books, but you got me into Brandon Sanderson and Pierce Brown, so how dare you?

SPEAKER_01 1:26:02

Yeah, how dare you. See my latest Brandon Sanderson books right there. Trust of the Emerald Sea. Yeah, yeah. Kind of got Brandon Sanderson right next to George George R. Martin right now. You gotta read 97. Ooh. The the guy who hates magic systems and the guy who loves it.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:19

Yeah, but the George also makes made a really fascinating magic system. Uh I love how his magic works. It's so mysterious.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:27

He even wouldn't he wouldn't even call it magic.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:30

He wouldn't call it magic. It's just random chance that happens.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:34

But I love it. It's just so cool. But uh no one no one's like the goat there. What are we doing right now? What are we talking about? We're we're getting tired.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:42

We're getting tired. But uh Mary's incredible movie. Uh I just think about it because I want everybody to see it. Um, also, um, if our uh uncle is in here, hey uh hey Uncle Justin, um I'll I'll I'll say your name. But uh uh Andy Weir, fun fact, uh, worked for Blizzard for a bit and got fired because he wasn't a good coder. Um and then he wrote his books that became been there. Yeah. Wait, what? Anyways, but anyways, it's a fun little tangent. Oh, uh maybe I can do this. Maybe I can do this. Here's Rocky from the movie. I got the bucket Rocky and his Xenonite. Uh I got um I got this guy.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:30

Ryland's helmet. Yeah. Oh man. And uh so what I think what I think the movie speaks, like I think it speaks on a very emotional level, um, surrounding Ryland and Rocky. Um, and I think that was the heart of like, because I know that with adaptions, we always say this with adaptions, yeah, you gotta change things up. They focused on Rocky and Ryland's relationship more than they. Did the science and everything else? Uh and that's just as equal in the books. Yeah. And so I think they focused on that more. And I've heard some people complain, like, oh man, I wish they would have like explored like this about this, and like blah blah blah. But like, no, they sold it on Ryland and Rocky. That was what made the show the show or the movie the movie.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:22

And they also kept it disorienting between the past and the present.

unknown 1:28:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:27

And I think that was.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:09

Those guys, and then uh Greg Frazier, right? Uh uh, for cinematography. The cinematography. And I'm seeing like everything that they imagined uh come to life in in their minds and put on the screen. And then how uh Ryan Gosling, you know, he he was very passionate about this too, and he wanted a movie that everyone can watch and like that meant something. And they nailed it. So go out and watch Project Hell Mary. If you can't go out and watch it, just wait.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:40

I want you guys to see it.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:42

Um, we won't spoil anything.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:44

I I got one of our brothers, uh, a part of your other podcast that you guys used to do.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:49

Locke. Locke, friend of the channel, no brother of the channel.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:54

Uh he got um I told him that he should get the book if he has like a credit for Audible. And I said before the movie comes out, and he got it and he binged it in like three days. Holy smokes. And uh, because I mean he can listen for most of his work. Oh, he just he flew I I think maybe he took a day break and then got back to it, but it was like pretty fast that he flew through it and he loved it. He loved the twists and turns. Um, he was just like, What? Uh yeah, that's so good. Andy Weir is a great author. I also watched The Martian for the first time this year. Oh about two months ago, or maybe a month ago. Uh I wanted to see it in prep for seeing this movie. I was sort of like I should finally see it. I was kind of being one of my things where I was being like needlessly uh I don't know, um different yeah, contradictory. I just like it was like contrarian. I was being a little weird about it, but I finally saw it and I loved it. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:52

It's so good. Matt Damon kills it.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:54

And the Artemis 2 rocket is headed to the moon right now.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:00

I think a lot of people they they've been uh posting videos of it. It's like some people were in planes seeing it go up, and then they posted like a TikTok of it, and then they have like the music from Project Hail Mary.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:12

The fishing scene, maybe.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:14

Yeah, exactly. Well, they actually did the um they did the Harry Styles song. Oh, okay that they did during the karaoke. Nice. Uh which I love that song. Sign of the Times, yeah. Yeah, Sign of the Times.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:25

Yeah. But man, oh yeah. The highs and lows, that that movie made me laugh and cry.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:31

And my wife as well said I didn't realize that I was gonna cry over a rock.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:37

He's not just a rock. He's a bull.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:45

Oh man, it was fun doing this podcast with you, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:50

Yeah, I know. I I enjoy this as well. Um, you know, this kind of turns into a ramble sesh every time we're on here, so I hope you guys enjoy that. Um, but we can kind of just spit it on the mic a little bit uh and chat about this stuff. Uh yeah, most of the time we're just sending video messages back and forth to each other.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:08

Yep, yep. We're always doing this podcast, even when we're not doing the podcast.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:12

But to confer in live in live uh face-to-face interaction. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:17

Not playing telephone.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:19

Yeah, no, that's pretty funny. Um yeah, check out uh Yo Yoso's channel. Uh check out mine, of course. Um, I'll be posting this on my channel. Uh and then I'll maybe I'll I need to send this to you so you can post it on your channel as well. Okay. Um, maybe I'll I'll send all of those to you uh that way that you can post them on your channel.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:44

Um then I'll copyright strike you and not uh and uh I was gonna say um uh also Spotify and everything else. Yeah. We're still uploading it to there, I think.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:58

So BuzzSprout. Buzzsprout should be sending them out across the website.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:02

Across all the places, yep. So if you watch their website. And um yeah, I've been a little quiet on my channel, but I have some stuff cooking. I've just been busy with graduate school and work. And uh I was really excited to get to do this, but uh I am very tired now, so I should probably uh sign out. I think yeah, you are two, you're two hours ahead of me, so yeah, definitely. Yeah it's late and I gotta get up early, so oh but uh yeah, hope everybody enjoyed and um go enjoy movies and TV shows. I think they're a fun thing that you can just kind of turn your brain off and enjoy, or sometimes keep your brain on and engages sometimes, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:44

Yeah, um it uh I I want to hear from you guys. Let us know what you're most excited for from the trailers. Uh let us know if you're watching Invincible, Daredevil. Um and uh if you check out Project Hail Mary, you know, give us all the deets. We'd we'd love to hear uh what you think of all these things uh down in the comments below.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:06

Yeah, and we have plenty of other stuff that we will get back to shortly. Um, and there's plenty of stuff that still is gonna be coming out, uh, including for all of you Star Wars fans, Mandalorian and Grogu, that we'll have to talk about. So that'll be fun.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:20

Mall Shadow Lord. Oh Shadow Lord Four days. Whoa. From the time of recording. So even sooner than it might already be out. Yeah, exactly. Uh look for uh review on my channel.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:36

Yes. Everybody head over to Star Wars Oddball. He is killing it right now.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:41

Sure, sure, sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:42

Alright. Well, um, yeah, I'm uh Yoslo. I'm Odball. And this is the unknown theories signing off. Bye. Bye.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:54

Yo, one back ready for the pawn.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:57

I was walking over here and I didn't like look up, and I just like started talking to the mic. And I was like, you know how your cats when they just like walk right in front of you when you're trying to move? Rocket was just like he was like walking in front of me and he kept like running and trying to get away, but he just kept walking in my path, and I was like, move! I was like, I was like, what are you Rocket, move? Dude, why are you walking directly where I'm going, my friend?

SPEAKER_03 1:35:26

He just misses you. Yeah, I think so. Wait, okay, wait, which cat's uh what cat is for which of you? Like usually they bond to someone. One more bonded to you than the other.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:37

Rocket and Peter, which one? Do you know the colors? Which one's which?

SPEAKER_03 1:35:42

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Well, Rocket is the black and white, and then Peter's the gray. So which one do you uh like like which one is like which one do I think? I'll be honest, I think it's Rocket and Amanda and Peter and you.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:56

Good job. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:57

Is that right? Okay, okay. Yeah, no, Peter definitely is more like um Peter's a lot like uh scooter, and um like doesn't want to be super touchy-feely unless like he decides like you know, the time and the place. He likes pets and everything, but he doesn't necessarily want to be cuddled unless we're in bed and then he wants to be spooned. He's really funny. Um and then Rocket is a big cuddler, but he's like sassy. He's uh he's very feisty. Um and and and Amanda just like knows how to pet him. And like yeah. Yeah. He he does cuddle on me, and I and I he is very sweet. Both of them are very sweet cats. They've they've never like attacked anybody, they've never like attacked us. I mean, Rocket sometimes nips us, but it's like those love nips, you know what I mean? Uh those like uh yeah, they're both great cats. This is the cat segment. No.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:03

Well, yeah, no, I I I love I love it, I love it. Drogo, obviously, my boy. Keit then had kitty, and now she has spooky. And spooky still runs away from me at every chance she gets. But she will rub against my legs if I'm at my computer and it's dinner time. Because she knows that I just won't let me touch her. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Freaking cats.